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<title>Tim's Bits and Pieces: Socialism</title>
<link>http://blog.timp.com.au</link>
<description>My personal blog, covering many random topics</description>
<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 23:03:53 +0200</pubDate>
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<title>Death Panels
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<link>http://blog.timp.com.au/death_panels%3A2011-04-10%3APolitics%2CSocialism</link>
<comments>http://blog.timp.com.au/death_panels%3A2011-04-10%3APolitics%2CSocialism#comments</comments>
<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 23:03:53 +0200</pubDate>
<dc:creator>TimP</dc:creator>
<category>Politics</category>
<category>Socialism</category>
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<p><a
 	href='http://www.news.com.au/national/final-hours-lost-in-battle-over-wifes-right-to-life-at-gold-coast-hospital/story-e6frfkvr-1226034372600'>The Queensland government's Adult Guardian decided to cut off aid to a woman
 	with cancer who was deemed unlikely to survive</a>. Sounds like a "death
 panel"* to me, something the public healthcare supporters in the US claim do
 not exist in Australia and other countries with public healthcare.</p>
 
 <p>I don't want to discuss the merits of this decision (I'm hardly qualified to
 make a judgement on that even if I did know all the facts), but rather I wish to
 point out that such decisions must be made in any healthcare system. In a user
 pays system the decision ultimately rests with the user themselves, while in a
 government run system the government must appoint a body or an individual to
 make these decisions. (In an insurance driven system such as in the US the
 conditions on when to make such decisions are established as part of the
 insurance contract)</p>
 
 <p>Such decisions must be made because "the best healthcare money can buy" would
 cost the entire economic output of a nation to pay for. No matter how much you
 do there is always something more that could be done to improve the odds of
 survival or the comfort of the patient some small amount. As a result there must
 by rationing, which is where this and similar treat-or-not decisions come in.
 Someone has to make the decision, and such decisions must take into account
 budget limitations, or they will simply over-spend now and lack resources for
 future situations.</p>
 
 <p>In any publish healthcare system people <em>will</em> die as the result of a
 government employee's decision to limit their treatment (either by cutting it
 off entirely, or restricting it to only certain procedures). Anyone who claims
 otherwise is either ignorant or lying to you (and perhaps to themself). (Note
 that in an insurance based system like in the US such decisions are still made,
 the difference being that the conditions for the decision are set as part of a
 contract rather than either via law or simple ad-hoc)</p>
 
 <p>The fact that so many supporters of public healthcare regularly claim that
 such things do not happen tells me that they are either liars, or that they
 don't even realise that such decisions are a necessary evil, which means that
 they are not even close to qualified to design or run <em>any</em> sort of healthcare
 system.</p>
 
 <p>Of course none of this gives a pass to the people who deliberately use a very
 emotionally loaded phrase ("death panels") rather than a simpler, less
 emotionally charged term, but when it comes to people who use emotionally
 manipulative phrases versus people who are blatantly lying to you; the ones
 that are actually telling the the truth come off as a <em>little</em> more
 trustworthy.</p>
 
 <p>*. "Death panels" is a rather emotionally manipulative name for such things
 (Adult Guardian is just as bad in the opposite directions though), a better term
 would be something like "Treatment Decision Panel".</p>
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<title>Tax Payers to Pay for Overseas Medical Procedure
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<link>http://blog.timp.com.au/tax_payers_to_pay_for_overseas_medical_procedure%3A2010-02-27%3APersonal-Responsibility%2CPolitics%2CSocialism</link>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:03:54 +0200</pubDate>
<dc:creator>TimP</dc:creator>
<category>Personal-Responsibility</category>
<category>Politics</category>
<category>Socialism</category>
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<p><a
 	href="http://www.news.com.au/national/addict-offered-second-chance-for-liver-transplant/story-e6frfkvr-1225834549165">Addict
 	Claire Murray offered second chance for liver transplant</a>:</p>
 <blockquote>
 	<p>It would be her second transplant after years of drug abuse, including
 	heroin and amphetamines</p>
 
 	<p>Dr Hames said the State Government was prepared to pay for her and her
 	father to travel to New Zealand so she could be considered for a "live"
 	liver transplant.</p>
 </blockquote>
 
 <p>I've got two questions:</p>
 <p>One, why can't a "live" liver transplant be done in Australia?</p>
 
 <p>Two, why does the Government need to pay for her to fly to NZ? I get that we as
 a nation feel the need to provide public hospitals, but I really don't see how
 we could think the Government is responsible for expenses related to procedures
 that are not even going to be conducted in Australia. It's not like it would be
 impossible for her to acquire the needed money from a charity or family members
 even.</p>
 
 <p>I suspect this happens all the time, and we're only hearing about it in
 this case because she is a drug addict on her second liver already, but even in
 non-drug related cases (probably rare; liver failure is normally caused by drug
 abuse) I don't understand why this is being done by the government. If one of my
 friends or family where having this sort of problem and couldn't scrounge up
 the money I would happily loan them the couple of grand this would be at the
 most, and for people that don't have that option (who would be exceedingly rare)
 there are personal loans and plenty of charities that would be willing to help
 them.</p>
 
 <p class="post_edit">--- Edited on 01/03/2010 to improve wording ---</p>
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<title>Private Property
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<link>http://blog.timp.com.au/private_property%3A2009-12-30%3AEconomics%2CEnvironment%2CPolitics%2CSocialism</link>
<comments>http://blog.timp.com.au/private_property%3A2009-12-30%3AEconomics%2CEnvironment%2CPolitics%2CSocialism#comments</comments>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:03:54 +0200</pubDate>
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<category>Economics</category>
<category>Environment</category>
<category>Politics</category>
<category>Socialism</category>
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<p>... Labour doesn't respect it. (Not that the Coalition are necessarily much
 better) <a
     href="http://www.news.com.au/national/dying-for-a-chat-with-kevin-rudd/story-e6frfkw9-1225814293079">Man
     Protests decision to make his farm a carbon sink</a>:</p>
 <blockquote>
     <p>As his health begins to fail, protesting farmer Peter Spencer swore
     yesterday he would die before giving in to a Federal Government decision to
     make his farm a carbon sink.</p>
 
     <p>Mr Spencer ... claims the government declared his property in Shannons Flat,
     north of Cooma, a carbon sink without offering any compensation. He says the
     move has left him unable to earn a living because he cannot clear land and
     redevelop the farm.</p>
 
     <p>A spokesperson for Mr Rudd said ... "The Government sets policy in the national interest. This policy will
     not be changed by threats of violence or self-harm.</p>
 </blockquote>
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<title>60th Anniversary of Communist China
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<link>http://blog.timp.com.au/60th_anniversary_of_communist_china%3A2009-10-01%3ALinkage%2CPolitics%2CSocialism</link>
<comments>http://blog.timp.com.au/60th_anniversary_of_communist_china%3A2009-10-01%3ALinkage%2CPolitics%2CSocialism#comments</comments>
<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:03:53 +0200</pubDate>
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<category>Linkage</category>
<category>Politics</category>
<category>Socialism</category>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>The Chinese are having a <a
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<p>The Chinese are having a <a
     href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/01/2701477.htm">parade</a>.
 "Authorities are taking no chances with security, with the Chinese
 capital effectively shut down", and everyone told to stay inside an watch it on
 TV. Good thing too, we wouldn't want to have a repeat of the <a
     href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989">Tiananmen
     Square Embarrassment</a>.</p>
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<title>The Christian Lobby supports wage caps
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<link>http://blog.timp.com.au/the_christian_lobby_supports_wage_caps%3A2009-09-30%3AEconomics%2CPolitics%2CReligion%2CSocialism%2CPhilosophy</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:03:57 +0200</pubDate>
<dc:creator>TimP</dc:creator>
<category>Economics</category>
<category>Politics</category>
<category>Religion</category>
<category>Socialism</category>
<category>Philosophy</category>
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<p>Apparently <a
 href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/30/2700165.htm">the
 Australian Christion Lobby supports wage caps</a>:</p>
 <blockquote>
 <p>... Jim Wallace from the Australian Christian Lobby says the churches
 want equality in wealth.</p>
 
 <p>"There is no way that you can justify this degree of difference between
 senior executives' pay and workers' pay," he said.</p>
 
 <p>"Certainly I think that the church needs to speak out. This is a matter
 that greatly effects the nature of our society."</p>
 </blockquote>
 
 <p>So as an Australian Christian I've sent them an email expressing my views on
 this issue:</p>
 <blockquote>
 <p>Hi,</p>
 
 <p>I've noticed that you've come out at least partly in support of government
 restricting wages for higher paid worker: <a
 href="http://www.acl.org.au/national/browse.stw?article_id=29217">http://www.acl.org.au/national/browse.stw?article_id=29217</a>
 (it's possible that the ABC has misrepresented the ACL's views on this of
 course, in which case I recommend posting a clarification). I oppose this quite
 strongly and feel that I should explain why.</p>
 
 <p>There are three problems with supporting this:</p>
 
 <p>1. It's impractical. It won't work in the majority of cases for two reasons: the
 first is that there will be loopholes, which a smart accountant will be able to
 get the through, and the second is that we are talking about people dropping
 from 10-20Mil to 5Mil; these are people who can easily move overseas to
 countries that don't have such laws, meaning that Australian companies would
 lose access to a large number of the most highly sought-after executives,
 harming the Australian economy, potentially quite seriously.</p>
 
 <p>2. Supporting this plan is liable to drive people away from the Church. People
 get angry when the Church is seen as "interfering" with the government, and this would be
 seen as the Church interfering with the government by many.</p>
 
 <p>3. There is no Biblical or Moral defense of such a stance that I'm aware of.
 Truly neither of the others is a good enough reason for the Church to ignore
 a strong moral issue like say Abortion, but this isn't a moral issue. The
 nearest thing I'm aware of in the Bible is the rich young ruler who Jesus told
 to give his money to the poor, but the thing is that Jesus told him to give his
 OWN money to the poor, not to raise taxes and give that money to the poor, and
 definitely not to set some maximum "fair" wage for anyone in the area he was the
 ruler over.</p>
 
 <p>I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts on why the Christian church needs to support this
 proposal.</p>
 
 <p>PS. I'll be posting the text of this email on my own website
 (http://blog.timp.com.au) as well, and would appreciate being able to post your
 response there as well.</p>
 
 <p>--<br />
 TimP<br />
 [http://blog.timp.com.au]</p>
 </blockquote>
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<title>China's Government Sucks
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<link>http://blog.timp.com.au/china_sucks%3A2009-06-18%3AJurisprudence%2CPolitics%2CRants%2CSocialism%2CPhilosophy</link>
<comments>http://blog.timp.com.au/china_sucks%3A2009-06-18%3AJurisprudence%2CPolitics%2CRants%2CSocialism%2CPhilosophy#comments</comments>
<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:03:53 +0200</pubDate>
<dc:creator>TimP</dc:creator>
<category>Jurisprudence</category>
<category>Politics</category>
<category>Rants</category>
<category>Socialism</category>
<category>Philosophy</category>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/16/1600021.htm">Their
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<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/16/1600021.htm">Their
     saying it as she got of murder</a>, but really she's going to jail <i>in
     China</i> for defending herself against an attempted rape. Now I know almost
 nothing about the Chinese justice system except that it seems to be pretty harsh
 (execution for tax evasion for instance), but I suspect Ms. Deng will never
 leave jail alive. Also the Chinese have no qualms about using prisoners as slave
 labour, so you can thank Ms. Deng for the donation of her labour to the worthy
 cause of keeping the price down on your next pair of Nike shoes.</p>
 
 <p>This and the fact that China currently tops my list of "Countries most likely
 to invade Australia" mean that I'm boycotting Chinese made products. This isn't
 going to be a complete boycott, I'll still buy Chinese when there's no other
 option and I'm not going to throw away the stuff I already own that's made in
 China, but where possible I'll make sure my money is going to someone other than
 the Chinese (and Indonesia, which is second place on the list, and not exactly a
 beacon of human rights itself).</p>
 
 <p class="post_edit">-- Edit 19/06/2009 --</p>
 <p>Changed the title from "China Sucks" to "China's Government Sucks", which
 more accurately communicates my opinion.</p>
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<title>Compulsory Student Union Membership
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<link>http://blog.timp.com.au/compulsory_student_union_membership%3A2009-06-14%3AEducation%2CPolitics%2CSocialism</link>
<comments>http://blog.timp.com.au/compulsory_student_union_membership%3A2009-06-14%3AEducation%2CPolitics%2CSocialism#comments</comments>
<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:03:53 +0200</pubDate>
<dc:creator>TimP</dc:creator>
<category>Education</category>
<category>Politics</category>
<category>Socialism</category>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Wonderful, looks like the Labour government wants to <a
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<p>Wonderful, looks like the Labour government wants to <a
     href="http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,25630151-14327,00.html">reintroduce
     compulsory student Union payments</a> for university students. Back to
 forcing people to pay for services they don't want or need. The student union
 never did anything useful for me; the only time I was ever in a situation where
 I might have needed a union, I was forced to join a special "club" as part of
 being a student, the student union was the actual problem. Sure they called it a
 union, but it was basically just a special club I was required to join, even if
 I never used any of their facilities. Isn't the whole point of unions
 <i>preventing</i> such things? To my mind mandatory union membership is a
 violation of the very purpose of unions.</p>
 
 <p>As an aside the fact that the student unions lost so much funding as well
 suggests that the majority of students did not find the student unions
 worthwhile, so why should they be forced to spend money on things they don't
 find useful?</p>
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<title>Weekend Away
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<link>http://blog.timp.com.au/weekend_away%3A2009-03-16%3AJurisprudence%2CPolitics%2CSocialism%2CLinkage</link>
<comments>http://blog.timp.com.au/weekend_away%3A2009-03-16%3AJurisprudence%2CPolitics%2CSocialism%2CLinkage#comments</comments>
<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:03:54 +0200</pubDate>
<dc:creator>TimP</dc:creator>
<category>Jurisprudence</category>
<category>Politics</category>
<category>Socialism</category>
<category>Linkage</category>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>I was away camping out in the Richmond Ranges with my family and didn't get
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<p>I was away camping out in the Richmond Ranges with my family and didn't get
 anything written for the weekend so instead I've just got a few links that I
 figured I'd share:</p>
 
 <ul>
     <li><a
         href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_nazis_were_maxists.html"><i>The
             Nazis where Marxists</i></a> from American Thinker. It's often
     said that the Nazis are extreme right-wing, when in reality, as detailed in
     this article, they where Marxists, or extreme <i>left-wing</i>, at least on
     economic issues.</li>
     <li><a href="http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1535"><i>The
         Killing Machine: Che Guevara, from Communist Firebrand to Capitalist
         Brand</i></a>.</li>
     <li><a
         href="http://www.wired.com/politics/law/magazine/17-04/ff_diamonds?currentPage=1"><i>The
             Untold Story of the World's Biggest Diamond Heist</i></a> from Wired
     Magazine via <a
         href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/03/the_story_of_th.html">Bruce
         Schneier</a>. Well worth the read; I strongly recommend it.</li>
 </ul>
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<title>All Economists Support Stimulus Packages
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<link>http://blog.timp.com.au/all_economists_support_stimulus_packages%3A2009-03-01%3AEconomics%2CPolitics%2CSocialism%2CLinkage</link>
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<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:03:53 +0200</pubDate>
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<category>Economics</category>
<category>Politics</category>
<category>Socialism</category>
<category>Linkage</category>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>... well if we pretend <a
 [...]]]></description>
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<p>... well if we pretend <a
     href="http://www.cato.org/special/stimulus09/alternate_version.html">these
     guys (including several Nobel laureates)</a> don't exist.</p>
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<title>Juxtaposition
</title>
<link>http://blog.timp.com.au/juxtaposition%3A2009-02-17%3AHumour%2CPolitics%2CSocialism%2CLinkage</link>
<comments>http://blog.timp.com.au/juxtaposition%3A2009-02-17%3AHumour%2CPolitics%2CSocialism%2CLinkage#comments</comments>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:03:54 +0200</pubDate>
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<category>Humour</category>
<category>Politics</category>
<category>Socialism</category>
<category>Linkage</category>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>I saw these two headlines beside each other in my news reader yesterday:</p>
 [...]]]></description>
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<p>I saw these two headlines beside each other in my news reader yesterday:</p>
 <ul><li><a
         href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/16/2492141.htm">Private
         hospital births safer than public: study</a></li>
     <li><a
         href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/16/2492044.htm">Commonwealth
         urged to take over GPs, dentists</a></li></ul>
 
 <p>For anyone who's interested <a
     href="http://www.mja.com.au/public/rop/robson/rob10880_fm.html">here's the
     actual article</a> referred to in the first one.</p>
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